Ramadan 2009
Date (2009) | Times of first sighting and setting of the crescent Moon* | |||
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London | Manchester | Leeds | Glasgow | |
21 Aug | Crescent moon not visible | Crescent moon not visible | Crescent moon not visible | Crescent moon not visible |
22 Aug | Crescent moon easily visible around 20:18. Sets at 20:30 | Crescent moon easily visible around 20:28. Sets at 20:36 | Crescent moon easily visible around 20:26. Sets at 20:33 | Crescent moon easily visible around 20:39. Sets at 20:42 |
20 Sept | Crescent moon visible only with binoculars, around 19:06. Sets at 19:09 | Crescent moon may be visible, with binoculars, around 19:12. Sets at 19:11 | Crescent moon visible only with binoculars, around 19:09. Sets at 19:07 | Crescent moon not visible. |
21 Sept | Crescent moon easily visible around 19:14. Sets at 19:30 | Crescent moon easily visible around 19:19. Sets at 19:30 | Crescent moon easily visible around 19:15. Sets at 19:26 | Crescent moon easily visible around 19:22. Sets at 19:27 |
This year matters have reached new extremes. NWFP’s local and zonal Ruet-i-Hilal committees have decided to strike out on their own to meet on Saturday — a day before the central Ruet-i-Hilal Committee is to convene — to give a ruling on the sighting of the Shawwal moon. A proposal that Pakistan should follow Saudi Arabia so that the entire Muslim world observes Eid on the same day has also received a nod of approval from the provincial government.
Conventionally, the physical visibility of the new moon has been used to chalk out the lunar calendar. But given the growth in technology this is not enough to ensure uniformity of the calendar because many astronomical factors! — the age of the moon, its angle and altitude above the horizon as well as weather conditions, the height and location of the place where the ‘moonsighter’ is positioned — determine the crescent’s visibility. Since the idea of different parts of the country observing Eid on different days is not an attractive one, and quite understandably so, it is time we agreed on a single principle to determine the lunar calendar. Some have found a solution by following Saudi Arabia’s lead (as is the case for Haj) to create a sense of unity and brotherhood in the Muslim world. Others have laid down clear guidelines for the sighting of the new moon. Whatever we choose must have the weight of national consensus behind it.
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ملک میں دو عیدیں۔ایک نیا ÙتنÛ، Ø§Ø¯Ø§Ø±ÛŒÛ Ù†ÙˆØ§ ئÛ' وقت
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پاکستان میں ایک بار پھر دو عیدیں
مسجد قاسم علی خان میں صوبائی سینئر وزیر بشیر بلور Ù†Û' بھی شرکت Ú©ÛŒ
ØµÙˆØ¨Û Ø³Ø±Øد Ú©ÛŒ Øکومت Ù†Û' ایک Ù…Ø±ØªØ¨Û Ù¾Ú¾Ø± بعض علماء Ú©Ùˆ مرکز Ú©Û' ساتھ عید منانÛ' پر مجبور کرنÛ' Ú©ÛŒ بجائÛ' آسان Ø±Ø§Ø³ØªÛ Ø§Ù¾Ù†Ø§ØªÛ' ÛوئÛ' ان ’Ú¯Ù†Û' Ú†Ù†Û' علما Ú©Û' سامنÛ' Ûتھیار ڈالتÛ'‘ ÛوئÛ' ان Ú©Û' اعلان پر آج اتوار Ú©Ùˆ عید منا Ù„ÛŒ ÛÛ'۔
’اتØاد بین المسلمین‘ کا Ù†Ø¹Ø±Û ! اس Ù…Ø±ØªØ¨Û Ù¾Ú¾Ø± مسجد قاسم علی خان Ú©Û' Ú©! Ù„ Ø³Ù†Û ŒÚ†Ø± Ú©ÛŒ رات Ú©Û' اعلان سÛ' Ù¾Ø§Ø±Û Ù¾Ø§Ø±Û Ûوگیا۔ مسجد Ú©Û' Ù…Ûتمم Ù…Ùتی Ø´Ûاب الدین Ú©Û' اعلان سÛ' ÙˆØ§Ø¶Ø Ûوگیا Ú©Û ÙˆÛ Ø§Ù¾Ù†ÛŒ سال Ûا سال سÛ' جاری روش تو ترک کرنÛ' پر Ûرگز Ø¢Ù…Ø§Ø¯Û Ù†Ûیں تاÛÙ… اس Ù…Ø±ØªØ¨Û ØµÙˆØ¨Ø§Ø¦ÛŒ Øکومت Ú©Ùˆ بھی ساتھ ملانÛ' میں کامیاب ثابت ÛوئÛ' Ûیں۔ ان کا پیغام آسان اور صا٠تھا: ’کوئی مانÛ' یا Ù†Û Ù…Ø§Ù†Û' ÛÙ… تو عید اپنی مرضی سÛ' منائیں Ú¯Û'۔‘
لیکن سنیچر Ú©ÛŒ رات مسجد قاسم علی خان میں مختل٠مکاتب Ùکر Ú©Û' علماء Ú©Û' اجلاس Ú! ©ÛŒ سب سÛ' Øیران Ú©Ù† بات اس میں صوبائی سینئر وزیر بشیر بلور، وزیر اطلاعات میاں اÙتخار Øسین اور وزیر مذÛبی امور نمروز خان Ú©ÛŒ شرکت تھی۔
خیال تھا Ú©Û ØµÙˆØ¨Ø§Ø¦ÛŒ Øکومت Ú©Û' ÛŒÛ ØªÛŒÙ† نمائندÛ' مسجد قاسم علی خان Ú©Û' علماء Ú©Ùˆ اس بات پر مجبور کرنÛ' Ú©ÛŒ کوشش کریں Ú¯Û' Ú©Û ÙˆÛ Ø¹ÛŒØ¯ مرکز Ú©Û' ساتھ ایک دن منائیں لیکن ÙˆÛ Ù…Ù†ÙˆØ§Ù†Û' Ú©ÛŒ بجائÛ' ان Ú©ÛŒ مان کر Ù†Ú©Ù„ آئÛ'۔ ایک غلطی Ú©Ùˆ درست کرنÛ' Ú©ÛŒ بجائÛ' انÛÙˆÚº Ù†Û' بÛتری اسی میں جانی Ú©Û Ø§Ø³ غلطی Ú©Ù! ˆ ÛÛŒ Ú¯Ù„Û' لگا لیں۔
صوبائی Øکومت Ú©Û' گھٹنÛ' ٹیکنÛ' Ú©ÛŒ بÚ'ÛŒ ÙˆØ¬Û Ø§Ø³ Ú©ÛŒ عوامی Øمایت کا ایسÛ' علاقوں میں Ûونا ÛÛ' جÛاں عید Øکومتوں Ú©Û' Ú©ÛÙ†Û' پر Ù†Ûیں Ø¨Ù„Ú©Û Ø§Ù¾Ù†Û' علماء Ú©Û' ØÚ©Ù… پر منائی جاتی ÛÛ'۔ ÛŒÛÛŒ ÙˆØ¬Û ÛÛ' Ú©Û ÙˆØ²ÛŒØ± اعلٰÛŒ امید Øیدر خان Ûوتی Ù†Û' عید مرکزی Øکومت Ú©Û' ساتھ منانÛ' Ú©ÛŒ بجائÛ' اپنÛ' انتخابی اور آبائی علاقÛ' Ú©Û' ساتھ منانÛ' میں غنیمت جانی۔
سرØد Øکومت Ú©ÛŒ عید سعودی عرب Ú©Û' ساتھ منانÛ' Ú©ÛŒ چند روز قبل سامنÛ' آنÛ' والی تجویز Ú©Ùˆ مرکز Ú©Û' علماء Ù†Û' بھی Ø¢Ú'Û' Ûاتھوں لیتÛ' ÛوئÛ' مسترد کر دیا تھا۔ ÛŒÛ Ø¨Ú¾ÛŒ شاید کوئی اعلٰÛŒ اور بÛتری تجویز Ù†Û ÛÙˆ لیکن Ú©Ù… از Ú©Ù… دیگر کئی ممالک Ú©ÛŒ Ø·Ø±Ø Ø§Ø³ Ú©Û' ذریعÛ' مسلمان ایک Ø³Ø§Ù„Ø§Ù†Û ØªÙ†Ø§Ø²Ø¹Û' سÛ' چھٹکارا پاسکتÛ' Ûیں۔
رمضان اور عید الÙطر Ú©Û' موقع پر ملک میں علماء Ú©Û' دو ÙˆØ§Ø¶Ø Ú¯Ø±ÙˆÙ¾Ø³ سامنÛ' Ø¢Ú! †Ú©Û' Ûیں۔ ایک مسجد قاسم علی خان ! 217;ÙÛŒ نامینۑ اور دوسرا مرکز Ú©Û' ÙˆÛ Ø¹Ù„Ù…Ø§Ø¡ جو سرØد Ú©ÛŒ رویت Ú©Û' معاملÛ' پر کسی بھی تجویز Ú©Ùˆ قبول کرنÛ' Ú©Ùˆ اپنی شاید ’بÛ'عزتی‘ تصور کرتÛ' Ûیں۔ ایسÛ' موق٠کÛ' درمیان اس سال بھی عید کا ان جید علماء Ú©Û' Ûاتھوں ÙˆÛÛŒ Øشر Ûوا جو کئی دÛائیوں سÛ' Ûوتا Ø¢ رÛا ÛÛ'۔
تاÛÙ… مرکزی Øکومت Ú©ÛŒ رٹ Ú©ÛŒ کمزوری کا ÛŒÛ Ø¹Ø§Ù„Ù… Ú©Û ÙˆÛ Ø§ÛŒÚ© صوبÛ' Ú©Ùˆ اور سرØد Øکومت Ú©ÛŒ رٹ کا ÛŒÛ Ø¹Ø§Ù„Ù… Ú©Û Ø³ÙˆØ§Øª اور لوئر دیر Ú©ÛŒ ضلعی رویت Ûلال کمیٹیوں Ù†Û' ان کا اعلان Ù…! اننÛ' سÛ' انکار کر دیا ÛÛ'۔ انÛÙˆÚº Ù†Û' اعلان کیا ÛÛ' Ú©Û ÛŒÛ Ø¯Ùˆ اضلاع مرکزی رویت Ûلال کمیٹی Ú©Û' اعلان پر ÛÛŒ عید منائیں Ú¯Û'۔ اس Ú©Û' Ø¹Ù„Ø§ÙˆÛ ØµÙˆØ¨Û Ø³Ø±Øد Ú©Û' ÙˆÙاقی Øکومت Ú©Û' ملازمین Ú©Û' Ø¹Ù„Ø§ÙˆÛ Ø§ÛŒÚ© اقلیت ایسی بھی ÛÛ' جو عید مرکز Ú©Û' ساتھ ÛÛŒ مناتی ÛÛ'۔
مرکزی رویت Ûلال کمیٹی Ú©Û' Ø³Ø±Ø¨Ø±Ø§Û Ù…Ùتی منیب الرØمان Ù†Û' سرØد Øکومت Ú©Û' اتوار Ú©Ùˆ عید منانÛ' Ú©Û' ÙیصلÛ' Ú©Ùˆ مسترد کرتÛ' ÛوئÛ' Ú©Ûا ÛÛ' Ú©Û Ø§Ø³Û' دینی معاملات میں مداخلت Ú©Û' نتائج بھگتنا! Ù¾Ú'یں Ú¯Û'۔
Ù…Ùتی منیب الرØمان Ù†Û' جو آج مرکزی رویت Ûلال کمیٹی Ú©Û' اجلاس Ú©ÛŒ صدارت کریں Ú¯Û' Ú©Ûا Ú©Û ÙˆÛ Ø§ÙˆØ± ØµÙˆØ¨Û Ø³Ø±Øد Ú©Û' اسی Ùیصد عوام سرØد Øکومت Ú©Û' غیر شرعی ÙیصلÛ' Ú©Ùˆ تسلیم Ù†Ûیں کرتÛ'۔ ان کا Ú©Ûنا تھا Ú©Û ÛŒÛ Ù¾ÛÙ„ÛŒ صوبائی Øکومت ÛÛ' جس Ù†Û' دینی معاملÛ' میں مداخلت Ú©ÛŒ ÛÛ'۔
رویت Ú©Û' قضیÛ' پر ایک بات پھر وا! Ø¶Ø Ø·ÙˆØ± پر ثابت ÛÙˆ کر سامنÛ' آئی ÛÛ'۔ رمضان Ú©ÛŒ عبادات کا شکر مل کر اتÙاق Ùˆ اتØاد کا Ù†Ù…ÙˆÙ†Û Ø¨Ù† کر ادا کرنÛ' Ú©ÛŒ بجائÛ' ’نا کسی Ú©ÛŒ مانیں Ú¯Û' یا منوائیں Ú¯Û'‘ Ú©Û' اصول Ú©Û' تØت منائی جا رÛÛŒ ÛÛ'۔
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The reality of moon-sighting in Makkah (By Sardar Ahmed Qadri)
http://ww! w.jang.c om.pk/jang/oct2009-daily/06-10-2009/col15.htm
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‘Fasting begins only after moon sighted’ Arab News |
MAKKAH: The Saudi Council of Senior Scholars has rejected the demand that the beginni! ng and end of lunar months should be determined on the basis of astronomical calculations. “Shariah does not accept astronomical calculations based on mathematical computing as the basis for the beginning and ending of Ramadan,” said Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh, grand mufti of Saudi Arabia and chairman of the council. “If anyone doubts our moon-sighting, fasting and feasting, it betrays his weak faith and defective perception,” the grand mufti, who is head of the Administration of Research in Religious Sciences and Fatwa said. He cited a Hadith of the Prophet (peace be upon him) which says, “You start fasting when you see (the moon) and stop it when you sight (the next moon) and when it is hidden by clouds, complete (30 days of) fasting.” The grand mufti added that it is obligatory on ! the Muslims to start fasting when any Muslim known for his hon! esty and healthy eyesight claims to have sighted the new moon. This is the practice in the Kingdom, he said, dismissing suggestion that Muslims may depend on astronomical calculations to begin fasting in Ramadan and celebrate Eid. It is the Supreme Judicial Council that announces the sighting of the new moon to mark the beginning of Rajab (seventh month of the Islamic calendar), Shaaban (the month preceding Ramadan), Ramadan, and the three months following it, Al-Madinah newspaper reported. The senior scholars’ council concluded a series of discussions on the issue and came to the conclusion on Tuesday that sighting of the moon should be the basis of a month’s beginning though three of its members supported the idea of depending on astronomical calculations. Meanwhile, Saudi astronomer Jaba! r Al-Doussary said religious scholars and astronomers should settle their dispute on the moon-sighting issue. “Nothing but the astronomical calculations confirm the sighting of the moon in a convincing manner. The calculations are made not for a day or a month but for thousands of years. Even the viewing through observatories is based on such calculations,” the astronomer said. Khaled Al-Zuaq, member of the Arab Federation of Space Sciences and Astronomy stressed the need for a meeting of astronomers and religious scholars to bring an end to the row over moon-sighting and avoid errors. “The present method of confirming moon-sighting has created confusion that can be removed easily by adopting scientific methods,” he said. A 15-member panel! from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE and Bahrain had decided two! years a go to launch an Islamic satellite, which would be used for sighting moon. (Arab News) .... To Eid or not Eid, that is the question!Moon visibility curves for Friday, November 12, 2004. Definitely no moon in Saudi Arabia..
As I child, I used to listen to the grown ups in our family argue endlessly about when the Eid Al Fitr (marking the end of Ramadan fasting) is supposed to start. Being based on a lunar calendar, Islamic months are more difficult to determine than the Gregorian months. These arguments are repeated in EXACTLY the same manner every year. The same clichés, the same points and counterpoints. It’s almost like the Groundhog Day movie (where the guy always wakes up on the same day). Yesterday night the fiasco repeated itself again. Saudi Arabia declare! d that Eid was Saturday. My wife an I were walking downtown an! d went i nto a shop to buy a soft drink when we heard the Jordanian Mufti on a small black and white TV announcing that Eid in Jordan was Sunday. At home later in the evening, my father in-law called from Germany perplexed. Half of Germany ended up celebrating Eid Saturday and the half will celebrate tomorrow. Just across the River Jordan, in Palestine Eid was celebrated Saturday. What a mess! I have always been convinced that this is a matter where science can help. Of course, the religious authorities have a million opinions on utilizing science to determine the appearance of the moon. Waiting until they agree can take another century or so. So to cut a long story short, I did my own Internet research on the matter. Here are the results (I wont go into the details of all the arguments, because, honestly, the whole thing just gets on my nerves): 1. Jordan’s announcement that Eid is on Sunday was correct. TheJordanian mufti said that the moon did not sho! w up, which is in line withthe calculations. At the very least one can be confident that,scientifically, there is NO WAY someone saw the crescent in Saudi ArabiaFriday night. Go to Moonsighting.com and see for yourself. The site’s publishers use a software package called MoonCalc (programmed byUK-based Dr Monzur Ahmed) The new moon, although “born” Friday night, could not have been seen anywhere on earth (with the exception of a possibility of sighting in some Polynesian Islands!!). 2. Just for your general knowledge, a new moon can indeed be seen in one zone of the earth but no! t another. Remember we live on a rotating sphere. See the scre! enshots of MoonCalc and you’ll get a better idea aboutthe science of moonsighting. OK. Now the interesting dilemma for observing Muslims is the following: Who’s announcement to follow. One side of the argument assumes that the “Muslim Nation” is one nation. And when the moon is sighted anywhere in the world by any Muslim, the whole Muslim nation should break the Ramadan fast. Well, that would be great. That would be the end of the endless arguments every year! Just one note: no claim of a moonsighting should be accepted if itSCIENTIFACALLY IMPOSSIBLE. OK?
I am sure the religious arguments about this issue can go on forever. The two solutions are clear: Either each country (and Muslim community) announces Eid on its own, or, by some miracle, All Islamic authorities agree on a common date (that at least does not contradict science). Happy Eid everyone! (Source) .... Fatawa on errors in following Saudi moon sighting Hazrat Maulana Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) …It is not known that the number of people sighting the moon in Saudia is of satisfactory quantity. The decision of the Saudi government is not only against the established principles of the Hanafi Fiqh, it is also against common sense therefore it is not applicable to Pakistan. The sighing of a large body is a condition within the Hanafi Fiqh when the horizon is clear however the Saudi government often decides Ramadhan on a single witness and Eid and Dhul-Hijjah on a minimum of two witnesses…(Ahsanul-Fatawa, Volume4/Page 417) Hazrat Maulana Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) subsequently wrote a letter to the responsible officials in the Saudi government regarding this matter and was not satisfied with the reply. He (RA) wrote, “I had clearly stated my reasons for claiming that your criteria for moon sighting are agai! nst the obvious; however I have not received a reply. The reas! ons quot ed previously are as follows: 2. Changing a day or two of Sha’ban into Ramadhan, which contradicts the verse of Qur’an in which the people of the days of ignorance were prohibited from changing the names of the months. They used to change the name of the month according to their likings. 3. Celebrating Eid in Ramadhan 4. Omitting a fast of Ramadhan, when all are equally compulsory 5. Changing Ramdhan into Shawwal, which is forbidden as above 6. Many pious people start the six fasts of Shawwal straight after Eid and under such circumstances they would be fasting on the day of Eid which is in complete contradiction with the Hadeeth 7. It is understood from many books of Fiqh that any form of Ibaadah is not acceptable before the due time, but is accepted if it is performed later than schedule time due to any valid excuse and the responsibility of fulfilling that ibaadah is discharged. For example praying Zuhr Salaah 2 minutes before Zawal will not be accepted under any circumstances at all. But if it was prayed late close to Asar time, it would be accepted and no sin committed if there was a valid excuse. Similarly, Qurbani can be made on the eleventh or twelfth if it is not made on the tenth but under no circumstances can it be made on the ninth of Zil-Hijjah. It is the same command for fasting and Eid. If fast or Eid is celebrated before time it will not be accepted, but if for any reason there is a delay because the sighting of the moon cannot be clarified then this Ibaadah will be accepted and the responsibility discharged 8. How is it possible that when-ever Saudi makes a hasty announcement of the moon sighting, it is not visible in Asia, Africa, or any other western countries even though they have a clear horizon. How can it be possible that the moon is sighted at sunset time in Saudia and 8 hours later it cannot be seen in America, Canada or the West Indies? The problem has occurred many times as well as this year. Therefore, this itself weakens the claims of the Saudi observations 9. It is stated in a Hadeeth from which we can understand that we should stop and start fasting in accordance with the moon sighting complete 30 days of Sha’ban if moon sighting is not possible due! to distorted visibility If we look at reality, we have left t! he pract ice upon this Hadeeth. What, don’t we have permission to keep complete 30 days of Sha’ban or Ramadhan? Don’t we have the flexibility to wait instead of jumping to conclusions and acting upon Saudi’s hasty sighting where there is a great possibility of our Ibaadah not being accepted because it is done before due time? We should therefore act only upon such verdicts that save us from ruining our Ibaadah. 10. From a Hanafi point of view, a single trustworthy person’s sighting is accepted for fasting, but for the sighting of Eid, it is important for a large group of people to give evidence of the moon being sighted. A number of people upon whom others have confidence and satisfaction. Whereas according to them (the Saudi) one or two persons sighting is accepted for Eid. 11. There has always been an atmosphere of controversy, confusion and argument amongst the Scholars and the general community whenever Saudi has made hasty announcements about the sighting and whenever they complete 30 days there is peace and satisfaction amongst the Muslim community. Our elders have always had doubts and suspicions regarding the Saudi announcements. If their dates were accepted to be accurate then Pakistan, India etc. would be under more obligation to follow them because they are more closer to Saudi than U.K. Hakeemul Ummah Sheikh Thanwi (RA) has stated and which is mentioned in Fatawa Raheemiyah at the end of volume seven, that if the observation of Saudi is proved to be accurate then the Muslims of India should follow Saudi. This was said approximately 60-70 years ago when in realit! y this has not been acted upon since, when there is only the A! rabian G ulf separating the Indian sub-continent from Saudi and there is not much time difference between them as well. 12. If Saudi observation is followed blindly, people will avoid consulting the learned scholars and the responsible authorities. The sources of media are so advanced that people can learn the news of the moon sighting through telephone, T.V. and satellite and many a time they start to spread the news by making their announcements before sunset. In future if this continues, then people will not wait for the announcement to be made from their local Mosques and it will be impossible to act contrary to these hasty announcements. The answer is correct and in accordance with the principles of Shariah. The countries closer in distance should be considered where there isn’t a lot of difference between sunrise and sunset times.” Hazratjee Maulana Inamul Hasan (RA): Bangla Wali Masjid 15 Shabaan 1407 15 April 1987
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